I used to come on the site when my ex wasn't home or was asleep in bed or when I sat skiving in one of the small school rooms during a meeting. I always deleted my browsing history for this site straight away after being on it in case someone suspected me so they'd have no proof if the elders asked to look at my internet history. Looking back on it now it was ridiculous really but the fear of being caught was real.
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Did You Ever Think You Would Be A Member On A Site Like This?
by minimus inwhen i first started looking at “apostate” sites , i was always watching over my shoulder, hoping no one would catch me viewing “spiritual pornography”.
i found these types of sites mesmerizing but i never thought i’d join one.... look at me now.😈.
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JW’s do NOT shun... (apprently)
by pale.emperor inmy quora campaign of answering all jw related questions truthfully with evidence is going well.
however, one jw had the audacity to claim that "jws do not shun".
they seem to want to present a fake, squeeky clean image to non-members and seem to get angry when answering questions regarding shunning.. like this asshole, dennis cybulski.
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Freedom rocks
I have a text and an email off 2 different jws who used to be friends.
1 says she can no longer speak to me once my D'A is announced at the meeting and hasn't since.
2nd person says we will no longer have anything in common once I leave and she will no longer be allowed to help me. I have seen her a few times since and she won't hold eye contact or smile back at me when I smile. (Definitely shunning).
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KH Hall doors to remain locked during meetings?
by StarTrekAngel inmy mother in law told us this morning that they read a letter in her cong last night.
from now on kh doors will be locked after 15 min of meeting start.
only the fire exit (one way door) will remain unlocked.
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The governing body seem to be upping the paranoia levels of its victims (followers). They'll be scared of their own shadows if the gb keep all this up with the Armageddon bunker videos and locking doors, etc
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Creation, evolution, ???
by Freedom rocks inwas on the bus today and got into a discussion somehow with the driver and ok be ood his work colleagues about whether there's life in other planets, evolution and creation.
the driver believes there must be other life out there, i agree with him that life can't be unique to this planet out of the billions that exist.
his colleague who i think might be a jw by his attitude and reasoning skills thinks we're the only planet with life on it and it was made perfect and exact purposely for humans.
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Freedom rocks
Can I ask how many of you presently study or have studied both creation AND evolution theories to arrive at what you believe to be true now?
Creationists on here - have you also studied evolution?
With the amount of information available out there to study it's going to take me years to discover what I now believe. It's a journey I'm willing to go on though. From what I've learned so far I'm leaning more towards agnostic/atheist at present 40:60. That ratio will change as I learn more I'm sure!
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Evolution is a Fact #5 - Vitamin C
by cofty inpart 1 - protein functional redundancypart 2 - dna functional redundancypart 3 - ervspart 4 - smelly genes.
in part 4 we saw that roughly half of the 800 genes in the human genome that code for olfactory receptors are broken remnants of our evolutionary history.
they were vital to our distant ancestors but in humans, as in our primate cousins they have been allowed to fall into disuse as our eyes became more important to our survival than our nose.
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Freedom rocks
Wouldn't a jw just rationalise this somehow as the gene was broken when eve and Adam sinned and it's part of our inherited imperfection?
Cofty - i'm really enjoying reading through your series of posts on evolution, they help throw creationism out of the window altogether and you've made them easy to understand so thank you
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Creation, evolution, ???
by Freedom rocks inwas on the bus today and got into a discussion somehow with the driver and ok be ood his work colleagues about whether there's life in other planets, evolution and creation.
the driver believes there must be other life out there, i agree with him that life can't be unique to this planet out of the billions that exist.
his colleague who i think might be a jw by his attitude and reasoning skills thinks we're the only planet with life on it and it was made perfect and exact purposely for humans.
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Sorry there are some odd words in my op, my predictive text on my phone is terrible. The first sentence is supposed to say with the driver and one of his work colleagues
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Creation, evolution, ???
by Freedom rocks inwas on the bus today and got into a discussion somehow with the driver and ok be ood his work colleagues about whether there's life in other planets, evolution and creation.
the driver believes there must be other life out there, i agree with him that life can't be unique to this planet out of the billions that exist.
his colleague who i think might be a jw by his attitude and reasoning skills thinks we're the only planet with life on it and it was made perfect and exact purposely for humans.
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Freedom rocks
Was on the bus today and got into a discussion somehow with the driver and ok be ood his work colleagues about whether there's life in other planets, evolution and creation.
The driver believes there must be other life out there, I agree with him that life can't be unique to this planet out of the billions that exist. His colleague who I think might be a jw by his attitude and reasoning skills thinks we're the only planet with life on it and it was made perfect and exact purposely for humans. He said to me 'i guess you don't believe in creation then?'
How would you have argued this topic if you were In the conversation?
Do you thunk we're the only inhabited planet in existence?
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First time
by Deke ingood evening all, this is my first time posting.. been reading and following for two years.
my story will come soon.... but i want to say to all, thanks for all the meaningful, intellectual, honest, and insightful words!!
it’s been an interesting 48 years of service to an organization!
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Freedom rocks
Welcome Deke. This site and jwfacts helped me wake up and leave. I also went through the guilt, anger and acceptance phase when I was leaving and after i left. Now nearly a year out and I'm so happy and I've made lots of nice friends and I'm learning new things and discovering who I am again (Instead of being told who I should be). You have a wonderful journey of self discovery ahead of you now that you're free to be who you choose. Enjoy it!
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Arguments I’ve Had: Historical Accuracy and the Bible
by Saethydd inwhen i was a jw and still living with my parents i remember the way my father held what could almost be described as contempt for archeologists, paleontologists, and other scientists who dared to try explain what happened in past.
he justified this attidtude with the argument that these people don’t have enough evidence to make such claims with any certainty.
however, i see now that his viewpoint was more likely a defense mechanism to protect his presupposed conclusion that everything described in the bible actually happened.
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Freedom rocks
Yeah I got nowhere discussing 607bce with a jw last year. They just say historians are wrong and that man's methods of carbon dating are wrong. They said historians are disregarding a load of evidence that makes you arrive at the year 607.
It was a frustrating conversation because they wouldn't even look into it they just said you can only trust the societies literature because they do thorough research.
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GB and being famous
by asp59 inhave there been a gb in the organization before that like the 'spot light' as much as the current one?
they seem to be everywhere.
from broadcasting, to magazine and selfie jws post on facebook with them..
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What happened to the "discreet" part of the faithful and discreet slave?
I thought everyone was supposed to be equal in the org and there's no clergy class. They creep me out when I see them, there's just something creepy and untrustworthy about them. I felt the same when I was still a jw